Perry...I enjoyed what you wrote.
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Granny Linda
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DO YOU HAVE ANY GOALS?
by minimus inone thing a jw has to have is a goal.
a goal for getting to the meetings, a goal for answering at the meetings, a goal to pay attention at the meetings.....a goal to go out in field service, a goal to talk at the doors, a goal to place literature.....a goal for everything under the sun!
do you find that you are sick and tired of goals and need a breather, or have you set new goals?
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Hello again to all/ Serious question I need input!
by kevin221 inhope everyone is well.
i haven't posted much in quite a while but i have been lurking every so often and i just wanted to pop in and say hi, and give an update.
i'm doing well, not fantastic, but well and that's cool for now.
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Granny Linda
Be sure of your motive for such action. Time has a way of presenting the same scenerio in a different light. Keep working on yourself. I'm very sensative about children, so won't say anything futher. Well, just wishing the best for you. I'm glad you found rehab to be one of the best things that could have happened in the long run.
Granny
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Do you think that some Ex-Jw's
by kenpodragon indo you think that some ex-jw's still hold to the type of thinking of active jw's.
in that they like to argue every single point out to the point that the other side does not even care anymore, and wonders why anyone even took it that far.
i am not quoting any exact example, but i have been on enough sites to know that there always seems to be a few who like to do this on all sites.
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Granny Linda
Hey, Kenpo...was gonna drop you a line because I'm wanting to know if it's a boy or a girl?
As to your question...well, one time I posted my response to a thread that others deemed "shocking" that I'd even continue the discussion. I found it sorta funny because I usually sit back and don't enter into those argumentative threads, but guess I took the bait by responding. As I saw it, it was ok for some to have their say, but not others. I thought it smacked of the double standard...I can - you can't....shame, shame, shame. Had enough of that growing up so just stopped posting, period.
As for people in general, guess it would be a rather dull and boring existence (like JW) if everyone thought and acted alike. When I tire of someone trying to convince me of their being the "right man" I simply take leave. And when I'm right, I'm right. That is unless something happens that makes it necessary to change my mind...and it does happen, but not often.
I don't believe any human is 100% correct in our observations/perceptions. But it is ours to own and that's where self responsiblity comes into play. Most humans react on an emotional level so maybe that's where the problem, if it is a problem, can arise from. Our now deceased friend was one of those who would argue for sake of argument...he thrived on it. But in the end that lifestyle took it's toll on his physical well being. He really thought most people were ignorant and unwilling to shift their perception in light of any evidence that went contrary to their perconceived ideals. And I think that perhaps he was correct in that summation. Ignorance is bliss.
So, people are just gonna do what they are gonna do. We can either play along or leave it alone. It doesn't make one better than the other...just individualism at work. Too, just getting older takes away the necessity for always needing the last word. It's called maturity. One day maybe I'll rank up there myself.
Cheers...granny
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Madame Blavatsky / Theosophy / Krishnamurti
by Larry ini recently read nikita's story and she mentioned that she briefly came across the religion of theosophy in her travels towards of dub-ism @ a young age (thanks nitkita :) .
her post reminded me of my studies of madame blavatsky, colonel olcott, annie besant, cw leadbeater, etc., the founders of theosophy.
a book i recommend regarding madanme blavatsky is entitled "madame blavatsky's baboon - a history of the mystics, mediums, and misfits who brought spiritualism to america.
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Granny Linda
Howdy.
I'd started reading Blavatsky's, "Isis Unveiled", but...oh my gosh! thats a chore. I've read a little bit on Aleister Crowley...another strange character for sure.
Some of my favorite reading was about Rasputin. Jim, what's his last name? the rich guy protrayed in the movie, "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" hell....anyhow, he supposadly owned Rasputin's penis...which had indeed been cut off and saved. Truth is stranger then fiction...
I may have a JW hangover, but much as I enjoy reading about so-called spiritual "guru's"; their personal life was/is pretty sordid. I cannot imagine how inflated their ego must be especially after gaining any following. How do you find time for all your readings?
Granny...is who off to bed. Stay of good cheer.
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Should we care about "lurkers"?
by expatbrit inive noticed some discussion on the question of whether we should be concerned about moderating our behaviour because of what lurking jws will think.
should we be concerned about scaring off jws who may be starting to question the wt, or should anything go because if they can't deal with the real world it's not our problem and we should be ourselves?.
the following are some of my thoughts.
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Granny Linda
Many moons ago I stumbled across a site for former JW's, and in my naive state of thinking recovery had something to do with issues other than sex, sex, and more of the same...I didn't like it. I was interested in reading how people were dealing with their exit out of that religion; not who did who. Although I could understand the sexual repression many suffered (self included).
Today, years later, I've come to appreciate that forums differ, period. I think it's important to read through any site and get a feel for what's there. If we don't like what we see on some threads, it's easy enough to pass by. Recovery is gonna be about lots of different things at different times.
This board seems to have a semblance of balance with whatever one wishes to express at the moment. I'm not that concerned with censorship or lack of...sometimes I just go from site to site because my mood can determine what I'm interested in reading or viewing.
Granny...who can enjoy the more adult content at times, too.
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Adult Children of Alcoholics
by Ray Skyhorse inhow do witnesses view aa meetings and aca meetings?
are they ok with the 12 steps?
the reason i am asking is because i think it might be beneficial for my jw-wife to attend some aca meetings but i'm unsure of how "anti-aa" the witnesses are.. also, if anyone care to make any comments re aca meetings, i'm all ears.
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Granny Linda
Hi, Crystal.
Thank you for asking about my life today. It's been along time since anyone ask...and I'm not sure how to sum it up. I do remember the importance of introspection, and not afraid to look in the mirror. If I don't like what I see, I put forth an honest effort to effect a change in my thinking.
I spent quite awhile hanging out with so called psychic/spiritual people...what a joke, really. Now I dearly love those folks, but they really have nothing more too offer because I've quit looking for someone else to give me answers. They can offer their experience, strength, and hope but I'm not looking for that one right answer that would make my life somehow 'perfect.' If any of that makes sense. I do get longwinded and off track.
What I do for my recovery today is not waste my time with persons who really, by all outward expressions, are not interested in their own recovery...just continue blaiming other's for their lot in life. I've read a great deal of material that went/goes contrary to my preconceived ideas for the simple reason that I can no longer afford to "have all the answers"; which in my opinion, closes off the mind to possibility and potential.
My life is not always a bed of roses...I've suffered depression due to the change of life syndrome, but have come to appreciate that the principles learned in the 12 step programs can be applied to different areas of my life. Although I no longer attend any such meetings, when I need to discuss such recovery topics, I call my ex-husband and we just sorta acknowledge each other's journey.
I do volunteer work that helps me get out of me'ism. That horrible self pity which is all consumming at times...ugh! I've learned what resentment does, and I work hard to stay out of regret. Since each day can bring it's own trials, I try and remember that I'm not powerless nor dependent...I'm strong and capable. And stubborn :)
I'm glad you've found what works for you. A wonderful day indeed when we accepted that the guilt and shame we carried for years was never ours to own. That is freedom. I just deal with each day as it comes. And it helps too share with kindred souls because I never want to forget the agony and struggle that is commonplace for any when making major life changes.
In closing; my son's father still drinks, but age has mellowed his arse. We get along great and that is an added reward for all of us. In fact we hope to help our son and his family relocate because today we are a family. But I remember those days when he would threaten to kill me...especially when I started attending A.A. It was really funny one day when I'm sitting in the living room with my now husband, my son's father, and husband #2, the one from A.A. Geezzzzzz life is grand.
Granny, who remains grateful even when shit comes down the pike.
I've enjoyed this exchange. It's been a nice change of pace. If you would like to respond further that would be nice, but the computer goes into the shop today so will be off line for some time. Love ya.
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Granny Linda
Perhaps humans were cloned by an alien race from somewhere out in the big yonder...and our purpose is for nothing more than doing their drone work. As for God...I'll pass because time's up. Except for those of course who will spend another 2,500 years waiting for their saviour...and we thought the JW were screwy...HA. Please, no Bible scripture necessary. Been there, done that.
Granny
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wasted time
by wolfgang ini studied with the watchtower for about 5 years.
i always had in my mind that maybe this was really god.
i havent been in contact with them and from what all ive seen im pretty sure lol that their not it.
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Granny Linda
I finally gave up on the idea that I needed any religion...someone's else interpetation of what god, if any such thing exists, meant for me. Personally I find too many hypocrites in religion for my liking. I'm not prejudice either...I dislike them equally. Bottome line; if you don't believe as they teach, no matter the god involved, you're deserving of death. HUMBUG!
People are capable without religion...
Granny
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CHILDREN
by UnDisfellowshipped inthe quotes below just make me sick!.
look at these wicked mind-control teachings (which are like so many others)!.
*** watchtower april 15th 1995 issue ***.
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Granny Linda
Personally I believe that this world would be a whole lot better off without Christians and their Bible teachings about "sin." Yeah, children. Let's all teach such nonsense to our precious children so they can grow up lacking self esteem...and of course, NEEDING a saviour because everyone is just too damn stupid to be of decent character without lying hypocrites telling us how to live. GRRRRRR.
The sins of the father passed on....what the heck is that supposed to mean anyhow?
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Is your family life all it could be ?
by refiners fire inyeah that was my old man, always had a lot of time to spend with me.. .
thats us at the breakfast table, just before studying the daily text.. .
the old man there, teaching me practical skills that i'll need in the new order when we have to build houses for all those ressurected ones.. .
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Granny Linda
My family life is today what I make it. That excludes the JW side because they are what they are. Their lose, not mine. Really. They miss out on the grandchildren, the greatgrandchilren, the neices, nepehews, cousins...the LOVE. AHHHHH...so thankful I'm no longer missing their association. Remember, bad association spoils useful habits. And my habit is about embracing the many who for whatever reason are not allowed, or chose to not have association with their immediate family. I know we're on a site for recovering JW's, but talk to children of alcholics or other drug user's...maybe even the workaholic...or those who grew up around mentally disturbed parent(s) in general. JW children are hardly alone when it comes to feelings of abandoment by the parents. But I do understand what you're getting at.....cheers.
Granny